HOUSTON WE HAVE AN ALL-STAR

Posted by: C. Smith
01/25/13 3:46 pm EST

As we all know by now, the reserves for the 2013 NBA All-Star Game were announced Thursday evening and 76er Jrue Holiday was chosen as a back-up guard for the Eastern Conference squad.  Jrue’s selection by the NBA coaches to the ASG in Houston means that Holiday (22-years-old) now owns a place in Sixers lore, as he becomes the youngest player in franchise history to be named an All-Star.

Whether or not Jrue is having an All-Star caliber year is a topic that has been debated many times here at Philadunkia.com.  This post in not an attempt to continue that thread.  Today we’re going to put that hot button issue aside for a minute and celebrate Jrue’s selection to the 2013 NBA All-Star Game.

First I’ll take a quick look at Jrue’s numbers so far this season, which in themselves are pretty impressive.  Then I’ll revisit the 2009 NBA Draft to see how Jrue stacks up against the guards who were selected ahead of him that June.   

As one of the few bright spots in a so far very frustrating 2012-13 season, “The Jruth” is averaging team-highs of 19.0 points (on 45.5% shooting) and 9.0 assists per game.  The only other player in the League currently averaging 19 points and 8+ dimes per game is OKC’s Russell Westbrook – now a three time All-Star.  However, Jrue is the only player in the League averaging at least 19.0 points and 9.0 assists per outing.  I would argue that his assist numbers would be much higher if this team had wing players who could knock down open shots consistently (I’m looking at you Wright, Swaggy and J-Rich) and a big with good hands. 

If he continues to produce at that level, Jrue will join Wilt Chamberlain as the only player in franchise history to have averaged 18-plus points and 8-plus assists in a single season.  That’s a pretty exclusive club.

In addition to his scoring and ability to find open teammates for buckets, Jrue is also pulling down 4.2 rebounds per night.  19, 9 & 4 are excellent numbers, but admittedly they’re not eye popping.  Still, let me give you some perspective on how good of a stat line that is in 2012-13.  The only other player in the Association carrying a shine of 19+ points; 8+ assists and 4+ boards a night is…you guessed it, Russell Westbrook (22; 8.1 & 5.3 per).

Also of note is that Holiday has notched 11 double-doubles in 41 games (T — 32nd in the League) so far this season and one triple-double (T – 3rd in the League).

Holiday’s advanced stat line reads as follows: 

eFG%:  47.1%;

WS:  4.2

WS/48:  .92

Asst Pct.:  41.5% (5th in the League);

TS%:  49.6%

Usage Pct.:  26.9% (17th in the League).

He owns a PER of 18.90.

 

Now let’s examine the 2009 NBA Draft… 

If you recall, the Sixers selected Jrue with the 17th overall pick in the 2009 NBA Draft.  When you take a look back at the guards that were taken before Jrue that year, you’ll see that the Sixers front office made a very solid decision :

2009 NBA Draft

#3 pick :  James Harden (OKC)

#4 pick:  Tyreke Evans (SAC)

#5 pick:  Ricky Rubio (MIN)

#6 pick:  Johnny Flynn (MIN)

#7 pick:  Stephen Curry (GSW)

#10 pick:  Brandon Jennings

#12 pick:  Gerald Henderson (CHA)

You read that correctly, there were seven guards drafted before Jrue back in 2009.  Holiday had a great quote on Twitter last night about that Draft, “I was selected 17th, was the last one in green room…remember thinking I am just going to work my butt off and now I am an all-star.”  

IMO, only one guard on the above list is absolutely a better NBA player than Holiday.  That player is James Harden.  Ironically, Harden will also be making his 1st ASG appearance next month in Houston.  Some of you may like Jennings and / or Curry more than Holiday and a case can be made for each of those guards, but you cannot say for certain that they are better players then Holiday right now. 

As for the others on that list…After a ridiculous rookie year, Evans has faded into an average player.  A lot of that may have to do with the fact that Evans is playing for the Kings, but some of it is on the Chester native himself.  Rubio’s body of work isn’t big enough to prove anything yet.  Flynn has washed out of the NBA and is currently playing in Australia.  Henderson is a solid SG for the Bobcats, but is not on the same level as Jrue.  In short, I’d say the drafting of Holiday, who at the time was a 19-year-old kid with 1-year of college experience, has worked out very well for the 7-6.    

Whether or not you believe Holiday is having an All-Star caliber season in 2012-13 is irrelevant to me (for the purposes of this post).  When you look at his currents stats as well as go back and analyze the crop of guards from the early 1st round of the 2009 NBA Draft you come to one simple conclusion.  Jrue Holiday has developed into one of the best young players in the game.  Right now, that’s enough for me.  


 
 
 

26 Responses to “HOUSTON WE HAVE AN ALL-STAR”

  1. EvanZ
    25. January 2013 at 15:51

    Curry is absolutely a better player than Holiday right now. Not sure why anyone would like Jennings over Holiday though.

  2. Rob
    25. January 2013 at 16:03

    Congrats jrue on a stellar first half, can’t wait to see him and the big fella playing together.

  3. Philadunkia
    25. January 2013 at 16:37

    EvanZ,

    There’s no doubt that Curry is having a great season and statistically exceeds Jrue in several categories, but I would not say he is absolutely a better player then Jrue.

    Obviously he does some things better then Jrue (shoots the 3 for one), but he doesn’t handle the ball as well as Holiday and he doesn’t defend as tough as Jrue. Also Curry has a better team around him and that can not be discounted when you look at his stats. Lastly (although not related to my post), Curry is significantly more injury prone then Holiday and I wouldn’t want the future on my franchise depending on his brittle ankles.

    Thanks for reading and commenting.

    – C. Smith

  4. Tom
    25. January 2013 at 16:44

    Jruuuuuuuue

  5. Steve Toll
    25. January 2013 at 17:07

    A few Yes or No Trade Scenarios all for Holiday, hypothetical of course:

    1. Demarcus Cousins

    2. John Wall+Bradley Beal

    3. Andre Drummond

    4. Anthony Davis

    5. Jonas Valunciunas + Ed Davis

    6. 8th+9th+10th pick in the 2013 Draft (76ers still have their own lottery pick)

    7. #1 Pick in the 2014 Draft

    8. Chris Bosh

    9. Larry Sanders + Ersan Ilyasova

    10. Greivis Vasquez + Ryan Anderson

  6. Ross
    25. January 2013 at 17:27

    Steve Toll doesn’t think he’s worth his contract. hahaha

  7. Biron
    25. January 2013 at 18:48

    Steve

    I don’t think we could trade and not get a guard. Aside from the Spurs game this team is trash when he isn’t in the game.

    I’ve also been wondering for awhile, why do you still think he’s a below average guard? Not trying to start a debate or anything. People here will likely flip their shit anyways when you respond but I’ve always been curious because you say he’s just as good Vasquez but you almost praise Vasquez at the same time. So yeah, where do you rank Jrue among distributors in the league?

    Thanks.

  8. Rob
    25. January 2013 at 22:57

    Steve toll,
    Why would we trade out budding superstar, who we just signed to a reasonable deal, for a center no less?

  9. Gordon
    26. January 2013 at 08:19

    LMAO @ Steve Toll again you make me laugh ESPN has him as Valanciunas but whatever
    Jonas Valunciunas + Ed Davis
    Greivis Vasquez + Ryan Anderson
    Larry Sanders + Ersan Ilyasova
    #1 Pick in the 2014 Draft
    Of we trade Jrue for big men who plays point? Not the same Evan Turner you say is the bottom of a spit bucket. Why would we trade for a pick and wager on an untested rookie when we have a 4th year Allstar you do remember kwame brown… he plays on the sixers. Greivis and Anderson isnt actually bad but it doesnt do us any good when we still wouldnt have anyone to create their own shot and we would be weaker on defense. maybe for another team but not with our set up. not bad in value tho. I love Ilyasova and whatever it would take to get him here i would do except trade jrue. I would trade Thad tho to get him because with all these trades what happens to Thad.

  10. Jon
    26. January 2013 at 09:01

    1. No
    2. Yes
    3. No
    4. Maybe I haven’t seen enough of Davis
    5. No
    6. No
    7. I don’t know the 2014 draft class well enough
    8. Absolutely not
    9. Absolutely not
    10. No

  11. Sloetry
    26. January 2013 at 09:24

    Careful Jrue… we traded our last All Star lol. But seriously, well deserved Jrue. I was listening to a bball podcast and everybody agreed before the selection was even made that he should be on it. I personally think it’s even more deserved than AI last year. Hoping he gets Most Improved Player this year. He’ll get even better with his growing confidence. I was never sure he would make a good pg, but I was wrong.

  12. Chief Royster
    26. January 2013 at 10:32

    Don’t be like an average Philly pro team Front Office and trade someone and then have them return to destroy us for years to come… Jrue should be a mainstay like AI 1 …

  13. JimboJames
    26. January 2013 at 11:00

    Don’t think you could say no to 2 or 4… those players simply have a much higher value than jrue and we’re not in position to contend now anyway, so stockpiling assets is never a bad thing… 1 and 3 would be possibilities if we were planning for a future without bynum but don’t really see the point if the big man is on board and can stay healthy. the rest are trash (sorry steve)

  14. Oscar
    26. January 2013 at 12:32

    Steve,

    Why do you consistently knock on Holiday? All those trade scenarios are a no go in my opinion, with the exception of the 2014 1st pick. But I am iffy on that one considering how Jrue has established himself and he’s only 22!

  15. Max
    26. January 2013 at 15:33

    1. No
    2. Yes
    3. No
    4. Yes
    5. No
    6. No
    7. Absolutely, I’d love to see an explanation for this!!!! The 2014 draft i would take the number one or two pick both parker and wiggins have a chance to be on a total different level.
    8. No
    9. No
    10. Not sure both are playing very well but i just feel as though its not as sustainable as jrue success could be.

  16. Frank
    26. January 2013 at 21:30

    Gotta give Stefanski credit for this one. If only he didn’t hire eddie jordan he may still have a job. Tony Dileo sucks.

  17. Jim
    27. January 2013 at 15:08

    Steve,

    Jrue’s an all-star. It must eat you up inside that you were wrong and Jrue has been recognized as one of the top guards in th East by people who have much greater basketball knowledge than you. Feel free to stop posting here.

  18. Steve Toll
    27. January 2013 at 23:50

    Jrue is the 2nd best player on a team that is 7 games under .500 and is one of the 3 worst teams in the NBA

    Is anyone else aware of that???

    All 10 of those trades are 100% do it 1000000 out of 1000000, YES

  19. Chris H.
    28. January 2013 at 09:12

    Well Steve,
    Considering Jrue is now officially an all-star…has the highest “Per” of anyone on the team. Leads said team in points and assist, yes and turnovers, I would ask why do you hate this guy so much? Look, we all like Thad as well, but clearly Jrue is, if not has been, emerging as the best player on the team.
    By the way, the Sixers are 9th in the conf, 20th in the league. You are what your record says you are. I’m not sticking my chest out on that obviously, but they aren’t the 3rd worst team in the league, or their record would reflect that, plain and simple.

  20. Steve Toll
    28. January 2013 at 10:31

    http://waynewinston.com/wordpress/?p=1548

  21. MountainDrew
    28. January 2013 at 10:41

    No one is aware of it because it’s not true. Jrue is the best player on a team without it’s centerpiece that is still performing adequatly for a shot at the playoffs.

  22. Jon in LA
    28. January 2013 at 11:47

    Steve,

    Are you aware that, right now, you would trade an 22 year old All-Star PG averaging 19 and 9 for a first round draft pick? Why? In hopes you get a PG that averages 19 and 9? How stupid is that?

    And I bet even Thad thinks Jrue is the best player on the team. But once again, it’s the “Everyone is wrong but me” mentality that everyone but you is aware of.

  23. Steve toll
    28. January 2013 at 15:08

    Your right Steve he’s our second best player and when r best player comes back we will be 7th or 8th seed.

  24. Steve Toll
    28. January 2013 at 21:45

    EVERY BIT OF ADVANCED STATS……..

    Makes it very clear that Thad > Jrue

    My private numbers also clearly show Thad > Jrue

  25. Steve Toll
    29. January 2013 at 00:45

    Chris H,

    Plain and Simple, you don’t know what you’re talking about.

    Mountain Drew,

    Sick thread on RealGM bro

    Jon in LA,

    Do you understand that Jrue is average at best and the team has 0 young+cheap talent which means its totally screwed going forward?

  26. mike
    1. February 2013 at 13:11

    Steve steve steve…. We get it you have embrassed yourself by calling Lou better than Jrue we get it but come on Thad isn’t even in the same Class as Holiday get real Holiday is a top 5 to 7 Point guard.

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