Posted by: Jeff McMenamin
02/05/13 8:00 am EST
Orlando Magic 61 FinalRecap | Box Score 78 Philadelphia 76ers
Thaddeus Young, SF 15 MIN | 3-5 FG | 0-0 FT | 5 REB | 0 AST | 0 STL | 0 BLK | 0 TO | 6 PTS | +10The Sixers are in BIG, BIG trouble.  The score doesn’t explain the biggest storyline which happened in this game. Everything started off well last night.  Thad was off to a nice game with six points and five boards in just 15 minutes.  But, early in the 2nd quarter when diving for a loose ball, Thad seemed to have pulled his hamstring badly.  He was writhing in pain and had to be taken to the locker room by trainers and teammate Kwame Brown.  He didn’t return to the game and coach Doug Collins said postgame that, “[Thad] is going to be out a while.”  Just when it seemed like things were finally going well for this team, the Sixers just lost arguably their most valuable player for an unknown period of time. More on this after the jump.
Evan Turner, SF 32 MIN | 2-6 FG | 0-0 FT | 7 REB | 5 AST | 2 STL | 0 BLK | 2 TO | 4 PTS | +16Didn’t see much of anything from Turner in this game. He’s been playing really quiet lately. He’s averaged just six points, six rebounds and five assists a game in the last three games. Since he was doing everything besides scoring well in this game, I won’t be too hard on him. However, it’s the typical Turner disappearing act. Who knows when he’ll suddenly have a 27 point, seven assist effort next like he did against the Memphis Grizzlies a little over a week ago.
Spencer Hawes, C 37 MIN | 9-17 FG | 2-3 FT | 14 REB | 3 AST | 0 STL | 1 BLK | 2 TO | 21 PTS | +20Spencer was the man in this game.  He played inspired basketball after Thaddeus Young exited the game with his left hamstring injury.  21 points, 14 rebounds, a big-time throwdown and even a three. You can tell that Hawes is playing with confidence in the starting role.  It was just his 7th double-double of the season.
Jrue Holiday, PG 41 MIN | 6-15 FG | 1-2 FT | 4 REB | 14 AST | 1 STL | 0 BLK | 1 TO | 13 PTS | +18Jrue didn’t shoot very well, but was his typical floor general self.  13 points and 14 assists is good enough for me.  The best stat was just one turnover!
Nick Young, SG 36 MIN | 7-15 FG | 0-0 FT | 6 REB | 2 AST | 4 STL | 2 BLK | 2 TO | 15 PTS | +19Swaggy had it going on in the first quarter.  He was 5-of-7 for 10 points with one of the top plays of the year, his “P60” jam (video below).  He disappeared the rest of the game however, besides some surprising defense. Since Swaggy’s been inserted into the starting lineup, he’s averaged 17 points per game and the Sixers are 4-1.  Efficient or not, he seems to be the scoring punch the Sixers were missing all season.
Lavoy Allen, PF 30 MIN | 5-9 FG | 0-0 FT | 6 REB | 0 AST | 1 STL | 3 BLK | 0 TO | 10 PTS | -1Finally…Lavoy HAS COME BACK to Philadelphia.  Lavoy has put together a decent stretch in the Sixers’ past three home games and I was especially surprised by his 2nd quarter swat a little after Thad had left the game with his injury.  Maybe there’s hope left after all.
Arnett Moultrie, PF 12 MIN | 2-3 FG | 0-0 FT | 2 REB | 0 AST | 0 STL | 1 BLK | 1 TO | 4 PTS | +3Arnett Moultrie played 12 minutes.  Rejoice! In his first real tick of the season (and most of his career) Arnett didn’t play too bad. He showed his range on a jumper and grabbed a couple boards.  With Thad out for what seems will be for close to a month, this man deserves the chance to prove himself with more minutes.
Dorell Wright, SF 6 MIN | 0-3 FG | 0-0 FT | 0 REB | 1 AST | 0 STL | 0 BLK | 1 TO | 0 PTS | -3I was thinking to myself when Dorell entered the game in the 2nd, that it had looked as if he’d put on some weight since the start of the season.  He didn’t do anything in this game but brick city in just six minutes and quickly found his way back to the Do(u)g House.  Don’t expect him to return to form anytime soon, his confidence is shot big time.
Royal Ivey, PG 20 MIN | 2-4 FG | 0-0 FT | 0 REB | 0 AST | 0 STL | 0 BLK | 0 TO | 5 PTS | -5He played 20 minutes?  Where was I?
Damien Wilkins, SG 9 MIN | 0-2 FG | 0-0 FT | 2 REB | 0 AST | 0 STL | 0 BLK | 1 TO | 0 PTS | +7All I know is his fade-away shot at the FT line and bricked three on back-to-back possessions in the 3rd made me want to puke.  Damien, please don’t do that to me again.
Kwame Brown, C DNP COACH’S DECISION MIN | FG | FT | REB | AST | STL | BLK | TO | PTS | His best assist of the season was helping Thaddeus into the locker room after his injury.  Forreal.
Jason Richardson, SG DNP LEFT KNEE INJURY MIN | FG | FT | REB | AST | STL | BLK | TO | PTS | It looks like his knee could be a real issue.  He’s now out indefinitely.  Not good at all.
Doug CollinsNothing to say here.  It looked like a high school game not an NBA game.  The Sixers won by 17 but in an ugly fashion.  Doug didn’t really do much out of the ordinary except for giving Arnett Moultrie extended minutes.  I’ll tip my hat to that.  Another way to look at it, is as one big slap in the face to the Magic’s Nikola Vucevic who rode the pine last season on the Sixers about as much as Moultrie has this season. Vucevic led the Magic in rebounding for the game with 14…Sigh.

After the Jump, Six Things We Saw…

  1. A huge blow: For those who had high hopes for the Sixers until the return of Andrew Bynum,  you may want to skip over this link. Warning: (It’s not for the faint of heart)

The Sixers are in big trouble.  Without Thaddeus Young, the Sixers frontcourt has gone from bad to non-existent.  As undersized as Thad is for a power forward, at least his aggressiveness and athleticism could bail him out.  Now?  A heavy dose of Spencer Hawes and Lavoy Allen with a sprinkle of Arnett Moultrie. This is going to get ugly.

2.  20-2 run: Since the move to place both Nick Young and Spencer Hawes in the Sixers starting lineup, the team has been hot out of the gate to start games.  Monday night, the team went on a 20-2 run to push their lead up to as large as 22-6 in the 1st quarter over the Orlando Magic. Swaggy even had an impressive 360 slam to cap off the run that had movie star and Philadelphia native Will Smith rising from his seat.  The Sixers will need to keep this 1st quarter intensity alive.

3.  Defensive stand: The Sixers held the Magic to just 61 points on 34% shooting.  The 61 points was the lowest the 7-6 has held an opponent to this season.  There have been five regular season games in last two seasons in which an NBA team has scored 61 points or fewer– the Magic now have three of them.

4.  3-diocrity: The Sixers and Magic combined to shoot just 4-of-32 (12%) from the three-point line.  The 20 3PA’s by the Sixers was the most attempted in franchise history.  The Magic nearly broke a streak of 457 straight games, dating back to 3/17/07, of hitting at least one three in a game.  Josh McRoberts hit their one and only three with 3:04 remaining in the 4th quarter.  The Magic as a team finished just 1-of-12 from beyond the arc.

5.  Hawes laws: Spencer Hawes for one night looked like he did a season ago.  He registered his 7th double-double of the season netting 21 points and pulling down 14 rebounds.  If the Sixers expect to have any success without Thaddeus Young in the lineup, this is what Spencer will have to do on a nightly basis.  This dunk by him over Gustavo Ayon was Hawesome:

6.  All-Star break: With three Sixers now banged up, the All-Star break can’t come soon enough.  They’ll have games against the Pacers, Bobcats and Clippers at home before they finish up Feb. 13th in Milwaukee.  Thaddeus Young is the newest on the list of injured Sixers that includes Andrew Bynum and Jason Richardson.  Bynum said in a press conference before the game that he feels a little bit of pain in his knee, but still expects to return after the All-Star break. Richardson has missed Philadelphia’s last six games after being diagnosed with a synovitis injury in his left knee.  Doug Collins told reporters before the game that Richardson will seek a third opinion on his injured knee and he “will be out for a while”.  Needless to say, the injury bug has bitten hard.


23 Responses to “GM 46: (BIG TROUBLE) RAPID REACTS”

  1. CG
    5. February 2013 at 08:22

    If we can go 2-2 in these final 4 games until AS Break than I’d consider that a victory, moral or otherwise, you will be missed Thad.

  2. Rob Y
    5. February 2013 at 09:05

    -Hey Steve, I’m not exactly sure what you mean by $500/ night on spread but whatever bets you want to make, I’m willing to take you. I have many questions regarding this, including legality, how are we going to settle, as well as many more specifics written out very thoroughly. Whatever you write, I should also be able to take the other side if you’re trying to simply be a bookie. Other than that, what does betting on the spread prove? It is essentially flipping coins. The spread is the best determinant of the future outcome of a game. Historically, the spread is correct almost 100% in the long-term by game-time and very few people (you can count them on your hands, if that) can actually have positive expectation. These select few generally make their money by market making with Vegas and their customers. Vegas gives the bettors/statistical analysts some money to help them come up with the most accurate initial spread. The closer to the real spread they get, the more money Vegas makes because they are just cashing in from the vig once they balance the market.

    Pro sports bettors (very few) also make their money trading throughout different sportsbooks and finding arbitrage rather than taking the line against Vegas themselves. In general, betting $1k to win $900 is impossible to beat in the long-term given the regular vig. I say instead we bet on what we think future lines in the NBA will be. Being able to guess the line of a basketball game shows a lot more about your understanding of the NBA than being able to get lucky and beat a spread. For example, Steve, what would your best guess for the spread on Wednesday b/w Indiana and Philly? You make a market and I’ll buy or sell you off that.



    Bottom line for the Sixers – If Thad’s out for a month, it is going to be very hard to make the 8 spot unless the Celtics fall apart without Rondo (I doubt it even though Rondo is overrated, or they can fall if they somehow trade KG which I don’t know much about). Other than that, we would need a 100% Bynum for every game after the All-Star break to have a chance which is tough. All I can say is fuuuhh, what a damn shame Thad, great season thus far. I missed the game last night but DEFENSE. BTW, ARNETT MOULTRIE, what up – I’ve said it all alone. Caveat- with his extended minutes without Thad, he’s probably gonna suck but at least develop a bit. SwaggyP, on paper, had a great game. He will not shoot 1/7 from 3pt range on average. He averages about 2.7-2.8/7 so you should add about 5.25 more points to his 15 last night which will give you another 20pt game out of him which is beginning to not look surprising at this point. These numbers will drop the second DC starts playing JRich (if he comes back) or DW. I don’t disagree giving DW more time, but aside from that, if we somehow make the playoffs without Thad, we owe a lot of credit to Nick’s hot streak, which is probably all it is. I do not understand how you give Swaggy a B- after “some surprising defense” which is half the game might I add, and he played well offensively on paper at least. HEY STEVE, DID Jrue Holiday out play Ish Smith or no?!?!? Smith – 4pts 2-10, Jrue 13pts, 14 assits, 40% shooting. Can you give him this one?

    BIG SPENCEEE, maybe Vuc can’t play defense- beginning to look like Van Gundy’s system is set up for a C to get big #s (e.g. D12 sucks this year and yea I know he’s injured). ET sucks as his general 8 for 10 suckage rate; that’s all I want out of you Lavoy; DW 0-3…statistically irrelevant. Sixers went up to 9.5 favorites pre-game w/ JJ, Jameer, and Afflalo out.

    I know im speaking in hindsight but how obvious was OKC -8.5 last night vs. DAL? That means the Thunder are only 75% to beat the crappy Mavs where Dirk almost didn’t even play. Also Port +4 vs. Minn seemed solid too.

    How nice of a sell do the Clippers look at 6-1? Other likes, Spurs as a buy at 6-1, Bulls as a buy at 14-1 (started at 6-1 pre-season/what the hell changed that? DRose is coming back, maybe ppl think the injury is more serious now than at start of season but that seems unlikely). Bulls were favored over Heat two years ago in East Conf Finals on a neutral court. Other likes: Nets as a buy at 33-1 (Take into account all the odds sum up to over 100% so in reality you should get more for your money).

    For tonight, I think GS +3.5 in Hou is pretty solid only if Curry, Bogut, etc are all healthy. Warriors have more than a 0.5 pt edge over Houston on a neutral court. Funny also that Den is -7 vs. Mil when the Knicks were only -5 a couple nights ago. Shows how much better the West is than the East and how much New Yorker’s/ESPN overrates the Knicks simply to get more viewers because NYC is such a large market. Nuggets are 40-1 to win ship and knicks are 12-1 just because it is SO much harder to get out of the West.

    Steve can you at least admit that you were 100% wrong about home court advantage spread differentials and have 0 idea what the spread means in relation to a team’s percent chance of winning that game? (Maybe you understand now after this post).



  3. Rob Y
    5. February 2013 at 09:27

    Steve Highlights:

    1) “last years team [Sixers] was ELITE”

    2) “Mutumbo > A.I”

    3) “Charlotte and Washington are the only teams on the schedule that the 76ers currently would be favored over on a neutral court.” – We were favored against Toronto on a neutral court, Sacramento, and Orlando. We actually were tied with Washington on a neutral court.

    4) “There is a very real chance the WIZ end up with a better record than the 76ers” – So are the sixers better or worse than Washington? I’m confused (See #3).

    5) “Don’t laugh 76ers fans. Remember when the Eagles signed Nnamdi Asomugha in 2011? He was 1st or 2nd team All-Pro in 4 of the previous 5 years and been to 3 straight Pro Bowls. I honestly believe that something happened on that initial plane ride to Philadelphia from San Fransisco that ruined him. It is that same insane belief that makes this trade worth the risk because I think the opposite will happen with Biedrins….It will take a bit of time and a gentle touch but by next season, at age 27, I wouldn’t be shocked to see this kind of production from the fallen star:” – HAHAHAHA. All I can say is check out Biedrins #s.

    6) “Splitter > any individual on sixers” – why don’t you run your stats on this one for fun and waste more of your time. Don’t forget Bynum!

    7) “The 76ers were the 3rd best team in the East last year and it’s plainly obvious.”

    8) “PGs are least valuable player on a team.”

    -Since 1999, PG’s who won a ship (The game is becoming more small ball).

    1) Chalmers. You are right. BUT Thunder were favorites over Heat and Westbrook was #2 on that team. ALSO, LeBron essentially played PG.

    2) Jason Kidd (old)- future HOF. #4 behind Dirk (HOF), Chandler (Top 4 Center in League), and a lights out, lucky JET but I’ll give you this one. You are right.

    3) Derek Fisher. How can you compete with Kobe and Shaq, doesn’t matter. You win ships with Kobe and Shaq. I’ll give you this, you are right.

    4) Rondo- some say he is 2nd best PG in league.

    5) Tony Parker- potential HOF. #2 behind Duncan.

    6) Wade essentialy played PG in 2006 finals run.

    7) Chauncy Billups- #1 or 2 player on that team.


  4. Rob Y
    5. February 2013 at 10:42

    3) “Charlotte and Washington are the only teams on the schedule that the 76ers currently would be favored over on a neutral court.” – We were favored against Toronto on a neutral court, Sacramento, and Orlando. We actually were tied with Washington on a neutral court.

    Might I add we’re huge favorites against Cleveland, -6 @ home vs. Detroit, -5 @ home vs. PHX and are now better than Minn -3 @ home w/o Love (we were -3 when Love played) Steve you said we’re better than 2. We’re better than 9.


  5. Sixers Links - Hoop76
    5. February 2013 at 11:13

    […] In Philadunkia, Jeff McMenamin writes that things could get ugly without Thad: The Sixers are in big trouble.  Without Thaddeus Young, the Sixers frontcourt has gone from bad to non-existent.  As undersized as Thad is for a power forward, at least his aggressiveness and athleticism could bail him out.  Now?  A heavy dose of Spencer Hawes and Lavoy Allen with a sprinkle of Arnett Moultrie. This is going to get ugly. […]

  6. Max
    5. February 2013 at 11:48

    I know we shouldnt predict any outcomes cause anything can happen in this league but pacers will be in a third game of back to back to back because the chicago game was rescheduled so hopefully theyll be pretty tired. Bobcats we are obviously better than. If the Clippers still dont have Paul than they are garbage not to mention they just lost Griffin. Then the Bucks game is just a toss up for what ever team is already on all star break vacation. COULD go 3-1 and I emphasize COULD.

  7. Rob Y
    5. February 2013 at 12:30

    Where u at STEVE? SEE ABOVE ^^^^

  8. Adam
    5. February 2013 at 13:35

    I think jrich being out is the best thing for this team…. He is terrible

  9. Sean
    5. February 2013 at 13:41

    didnt have the patience to read all those long comments. sixers got 3 in a row. yay. thad is out. dam. showyaluv

  10. Justin
    5. February 2013 at 16:31


    I completely agree, long comments skipped… I hate to see Thad hurt but the timing could be worse with the ASG right around the corner. I just hope Spencer can hold up for another couple weeks to produce at a high level. We can’t expect last night’s numbers, but solid nonetheless.

  11. Jon
    5. February 2013 at 17:54

    You commenters are acting just like Steve toll…this is like revenge of the sith in real life…you were supposed to destroy the trolls not join them!!!!!

  12. Jon
    5. February 2013 at 17:55

    Aka just you rob y

  13. Rick
    5. February 2013 at 18:29


    You got him against the ropes, you know he doesn’t like that.

    Get well soon Thad. But, we are not in as bad of a situation as people may think.(It’s bad but not as bad.) We play 8 games in the three weeks that Thad is supposed to be gone for.

    -Pacers-we might play with some heart and rise to the occasion to get one for Thad if we do.W
    -Bobcats-We dont need Thad to beat the Bobcats.W
    -Clippers-Although we might play them good(maybe), im not sure we can pull this one out. To much to worry about on the defensive end.L
    -Bucks-The only way we beat them is if we shut down brandon jennings and monta ellis. Jennings kills us every time. Jrue has to step up, so does Evan on the defensive end. Everybody has to step up on O because it will be a high scoring game for the Bucks.W-L
    (3-1 before all star break)(At least 2-2)

    -Minnesota-The return of andrew Bynum!(Doubt it) We can beat minnesota especially with Kevin Love out. Jrue gets off that game, first game back from all-star break. W
    -Miami- Loss unless Bynum is back then we might have a chance just because it would be Bynum’s first home game back(should be loud at wells fargo, I will be in attendance).L
    -New York- Division rival in New York. Should be a good one, but we blew them out last time so they might want revenge. L
    -Orlando- Should be an easy win.W

    Then Thad should be back for the Bulls game. I have us going at the worst, 4-4 without Thad. At the most I have us going 5-3.

    I am being very optimistic here but I think we can pull out 5-3. We have to play damn near perfect basketball though, and somebody out of the norm has to play big for us, whether that is Bynum or somebody else.

    Why it is not that bad is because Boston and the Bucks have tough schedules coming up. If they can go on some losing streaks then we might be able to pull a little closer or at least stay the distance we are now.

  14. Hank
    6. February 2013 at 11:11

    Wow, Rick, optimistic would be an understatement. Worst case scenario without Thad is 4-4? OK, let’s look at these games again… (Side note: I’m not saying this to be obnoxious and try to start a fire… I think this is realistic. Side side note: this is assuming that Bynum does NOT come back in these 8 games. He has pain in his left knee again, and I have no reason to be optimistic with regards to his injury. I would absolutely LOVE for him to prove me wrong.)

    Pacers – The only chance we have to stay in this game is to RUN. They’re on their third game in a row, but regardless… On average, they are winning games by 2.43 points, and have not sustained any recent injuries, so this is roughly what we can expect from the roster we’ll play. The Sixers on the other hand, are losing by an average of 2.77 points per game, and just lost Thad who has hurt the team the most when he’s off the court this season, and it’s not close (we lose ~10.8 pts per game when he’s riding the pine, compared to ~4.9 pts for Jrue.) The kind of production we can get from whoever Doug decides to fill the void has yet to be seen, but it’s safe to say our average point differential is going to fall off a cliff with Thad unavailable. This is a loss at least 60% of the time.

    Bobcats – Should be a win with them on the second game of a back to back on the road vs. a well rested Sixers squad. However, I think people are overestimating the difference between us and the Bobcats when we don’t have Thad or Bynum. Run through each position and you’ll see that we are not all that far off when missing our best and 2nd or 3rd best players.

    Clippers – I just hope that this isn’t a blowout so I can enjoy watching it. Safe to say, loss.

    Bucks – Before Thad went down, this game would have been a win ~45% of the time. After losing Thad, we are going to struggle to stay with the Bucks. Again, we’ll have to see the type of production we’ll get from the replacements in starter minutes, but this projects to be an L, and it’s not all that close.

    Minnesota – Before losing Thad, and with Rubio still on a minutes cap, this would have been a close matchup. However, now that we are sans Thaddeus, and Rubio isn’t on a minutes limit (dropped 14 dimes last game) we would be lucky to come out of this with a win. Projects as a loss.

    Miami – Let’s move on. This is an L.

    New York – Nothing to see here. L.

    Orlando – I’m projecting this as a win, but not sure how easy it will be. If they get some of their injured perimeter players back (Reddick, Nelson, Afflalo) than they are probably a similar team to us without Thad. On our home floor, though, this projects as a win.

    Hopefully Thad can stick to his timeline, and we get him and Bynum back at similar times. I have a lot more faith in Thad coming back strong and on time than I do in Bynum, though.

    So, I project us to go 2-6 over the next 8. Could we win an extra game or two? Sure. Could we also go 1-7? Sure. I think 2-6 is a reasonable expectation from this squad.

    I have no idea what type of trade value Bynum has anymore, but I think our best play is to give Thad more than enough time to heal, continue to let Jrue develop, give Moultrie a ton of minutes (we will suck, and thus will get a better draft pick, plus we will see what he has and whether he’s worth developing) and shop the hell out of Bynum. Hopefully we can get a first round pick and an expiring deal.

    Then we’d be able to build around Jrue and Thad (both valuable players on team friendly deals) and have a couple of first round picks, one of which should be a decent pick.

    The problem is that no team would do that deal without Bynum committing to them long term, which is unlikely.

  15. Rob Y
    6. February 2013 at 11:42

    I really want to see Sixers win tonight but how is it possible that we are -3 at home vs Indiana? That means Indiana would be a point better than us on a neutral court for the game. I know Indiana is on their 3rd game of a back-back-back but they destroyed Chicago and Atlanta (two solid teams) and look very strong. Don’t forget we are without Thad Young who is “our best player and its not even close.” In parenthesis is what Steve Toll argued (that Thad is way better than Jrue); let’s analyze and see if he is right.

    ALERT: The following analysis is very easy to understand, just don’t be dumb and follow along:

    Indiana was about a 6 point favorite at home versus Sixers back on December 14. This means Sixers would be -2 at home (we did not have Jrue Holiday that game). In addition, both teams that day did not play the previous day.

    To reiterate, Sixers are -3 today but would be about -1 given the Pacers are on a back to back to back which makes teams play worse (you subtract a point on back-back).

    Again, to put in plain English- Let’s say the Sixers were -1 today without Thad given Pacers weren’t on a back-back-back. In December, we didn’t have Jrue and would have been -2 at home (versus +6 away) because going from away to home is an 8 point swing.

    Conclusion: Sixers without Thaddeus are -1 vs. Pacers (given what I said above). Sixers without Jrue are -2 vs. Pacers. I hate to say that Steve Toll was correct, but it appears that the Thad Young is worth about 1 more point per game to the Sixers, at least versus the Pacers. Congrats Steve Toll on your analysis on the Jrue vs. Thad debate. Do not let this get to your head and believe that your other claims are correct as well. Go Sixers.

  16. Rob Y
    6. February 2013 at 14:13

    We’re expected to win ~3

  17. Tom
    6. February 2013 at 15:44

    So can Steve Toll be fired for turning this into a gambling site?

  18. Rick
    6. February 2013 at 16:31

    Hank I dont disagree with anything you said, based on the games you said we can win and lose. I do think your giving the teams we are playing a little bit too much credit though. Anyone of them can lose on any night, which is why I wasn’t quick to put in an L. But, like I said I was being optimistic. If nobody steps up for Thad it can get bad, but I am sticking with what I said on all those games, you can quote me.

    Your talking like your ready to call this season a wash. This 8 game stretch can determine if we can catch up or not though.

  19. Steve Toll
    6. February 2013 at 16:42


    Keep on trucking, bro.


    At least let everyone take all my monies first before you suggest I be fired….

  20. Jon
    6. February 2013 at 17:23

    Rob y you were the chosen one!!!

  21. Rob Y
    6. February 2013 at 17:29

    Steve Toll
    6. February 2013 at 16:42

    Keep on trucking, bro.”

    There’s really nothing more that can be said about you besides that you are a joke. You should be fired from this site because instead of being able to respond to well-thought out comments and debate, you simply dismiss anyone else’s opinion besides your own, illogical fallacies. Congrats Steve, your job is to attract readers to the site and you did a decent job of getting discussion going for about a month but you’ve officially lost me. To the other writers on the site, I enjoyed reading your articles but giving a guy like Steve Toll any responsiblity goes to show that you are missing something. Steve, good luck with your ignorant and sad existence and I bid you farewell.

    P.S- your blunt response just goes to show you simply lack the intelligence to understand even the most basic of ideas and logical analysis.

  22. Jeff McMenamin
    6. February 2013 at 17:48


    Hahahahahahaha. Comment of the year. That was hilarious.

  23. Steve Toll
    6. February 2013 at 21:19


    Seriously, what hole did you crawl out of and why won’t you go back?

    The fact that you can’t figure out the very simple proposal or how to getvmy contact info is quite an indictment on your competence or lack thereof.

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