COLLINS: STAY OR GO ??

Posted by: Philadunkia
02/22/13 12:57 pm EST

Perhaps the only thing more curious and frustrating then the way the 76ers played in Minnesota on Wednesday night were the post game comments from head coach Doug Collins. 

“We played terribly,” Doug Collins said after the debacle in Minnesota.  “I don’t know what else to say.  It was terrible.  No energy. No life – at all.  It was terrible.  I mean, I can’t candy-coat it any more than that.”

Those brutally honest words came on the heels of several not-so-inspiring quotes that were tossed out to the media by Collins just before the all-star break.

“We’ve been through a lot this year.  It’s been a tough year for us.” — were lines issued by a seemingly tired and very frustrated Collins on a couple of occasions leading into the all-star vacation the Sixers just experienced.

If you follow the NBA at all, you know that in his previous coaching stops Collins has had a history of burning out himself or his players after three years.  This is DC’s third year at the helm of the Sixers and it has not gone well on many fronts.  When you combine this year’s mess with how hard Collins worked in his previous two seasons here in Philly, one could intelligently hypothesize that Doug may be coming to the end of his run with the Sixers.       

After the jump, four Philadunkia scribes offer their opinions on the DC’s future with the 7-6.

 

Jake Fischer

Naturally, one would think that gradually improving a young core over the last three years and winning a playoff series would be the exact development you would expect from the Sixers and their coach, but for some reason it hasn’t been enough.

For that reason alone, people who know this team know that Doug Collins is not the right man for the coach job of the 76ers.  DC is a great basketball mind, but can’t make in game adjustments, lacks the idea of a consistent rotation and doesn’t know how to get the most out of all of his players (as we’ve seen with Turner, Iguodala Moultrie and many others).  He wants to win a ring so badly, as we all know he wasn’t able to in Chicago.  With that, if the greatest player in the history of the game, Michael Jordan, wanted Collins out because he didn’t think he could win a ring, why should Sixers fans? 

I don’t think he will be fired, and he will wait out this team’s potential with Bynum/Whoever they bring in this off-season as he has the trust of this management.  That trust scares me into thinking that he will also have an open position in the front office when he does move on.  And, considering he drafted Moultrie with good intentions and has scarcely used him—and gave up a 1st round pick for him—that idea sounds like a nightmare to me. 

Steve Toll

In a hilarious turn of events, DC doesn’t look to be the head coach of the future.  As I mentioned over the summer, the disaster that precipitated everything was keeping DC on as a coach and decision maker.

DC will trudge to the season’s end.  As a partial architect to this disaster, there is no point to abandon ship (think the captain of the Titanic) as of right now, let the sadomasochism continue.  If he was going to leave, he would have done it during this ‘mistake filled offseason’ as an acknowledgement of the impending disaster

While it is highly unlikely that the team will hire someone with knowledge on how to build a winning team, like myself, DC will probably matriculate to the front office.  That will make the Morey’s of the world happy but not people who pay money to actually watch the 76ers.  The ownership group has a delicate line to tow with advanced stats guys as DC (a man of his word) has threatened non-ritual suicide if barraged with analytics on the regular.

Firing DC isn’t an option unless Tony Dileo goes as well, it’s that simple

Jeff McMenamin

I think the least the Sixers would do for Doug Collins is let him finish coaching this season.  It doesn’t seem like the Sixers are going anywhere at this point in time, but Collins will still get the chance to prove his worth in the final 30 games.

I don’t think Collins would move into the front office right away and I think everyone here at Philadunkia would agree that we don’t want Collins anywhere near the front office.  The guy has killed the youth of our organization through his terrible allocation of minutes and through trades. 

Doug Collins will not retire before the season ends.  If he isn’t fired at the end of the season I think he’ll have to take a long and hard look at what’s best for the organization and if he fits that picture.  He has too much pride to quit and I feel like the Sixers would have to fire him for him to leave. 

For all the history he has within the organization and how much respect he has by both fair-weather Sixers fans and throughout the league, firing him wouldn’t be the right move to make.  The Sixers aren’t going anywhere this season unless Bynum returns next week.  The Sixers will give him until the end of the season and then fire him.  It’s the least they can do for bringing the team out of the depths of the Eddie Jordan era.

C. Smith

I believe this will be Doug’s last season as the head coach of the Philadelphia 76ers and I think he will walk away voluntarily. While I have disagreed with a great deal of his in-game decisions and the personnel moves that Collins has executed during his time here in Philly, I had never been able to find fault with DC’s energy or desire.  That was until recently.

Lately, there is something missing.  You can see it on his face and hear it in his words after games.  The work it took to get the Sixers through a moderately successful 2011-12, the enigma that is Evan Turner, the Bynum drama and the overall extreme disappointment of this season have all taken a huge toll on Collins.  The result is that DC seems cooked and has become more of a whiner then I ever remember.  Now his is ‘woe is us’ mantra is just getting old for the fans, players and hopefully Sixers ownership.  Thus it is time for a “voluntary” change at the end of this season.

Still, I hope that this ownership group will have the smarts to keep Collins around the organization in some way.  But in a role that is far away from the front office decisions. 

Like a more relevant version of Sonny Hill.


 
 
 

12 Responses to “COLLINS: STAY OR GO ??”

  1. Doug
    22. February 2013 at 13:08

    “While it is highly unlikely that the team will hire someone with knowledge on how to build a winning team, like myself” -Steve Toll

    These comments are why everyone has such a problem with you Steve. No one likes a cocky ass, and that is exactly what you are.

    I love a lot of the analysis on this blog, but Steve, you are too much for me.

  2. the super villain
    22. February 2013 at 14:32

    it’s a shame Collins can’t JUST stay on as coach and have all front office decisions stripped away from him.

    his distribution of minutes is frustrating, but i still say this team has won more games than it should have.

    DiLeo is the guy that needs to go. We need a HARDCORE analytics guy as the GM to balance out the “gut instincts” of Collins.

    I love DC’s gut instincts/competitiveness/fire during the 48 mins of a game in progress, but want them far away from anything else.

  3. the super villain
    22. February 2013 at 14:33

    also, i really enjoy the format of posing a question to the entire ‘dunkia team and have everyone give their 2 cents.

  4. Adam
    22. February 2013 at 15:10

    The long 2s need to stop!

  5. Scott
    22. February 2013 at 17:52

    So, here’s the thing, IF Bynum was healthy then Hawes/Allen would be playin the 4 and Thad playin 3/4 and maybe coming off the bench. I want to believe in Evan, but he needs to believe in himself first. Nick/j-Rich/Dorrell would be there for the inside/out game and Jrue would have had an even better year. That equals Doug,DiLeo and Harris would have been the genius trio. Patience boys!!! Lets see what happens with Bynum this spring and then make a judgement, If we loose Bynum then the whole roster needs blown up. btw I am really frustrated too and tired of Bynum updates but we gotta focus on the future, Oh Yeah, LET MOULTRIE PLAY!! Sit Wilkins/Ivey.

  6. Wang
    22. February 2013 at 20:01

    DC is a philosopher, he is good at theory and stump, but yes, in-game adjustment is lacking.

    At least, give him sometime and see if he can pull off some magic when the big fella comes back.

  7. Jake Fischer
    23. February 2013 at 11:54

    Scott,

    IF Bynum was healthy, Thad would have won the starting 4 from Hawes and Allen during the preseason and training camp. He came into the season hoping to start at 3, but when Bynum looked like he wasn’t coming back for opening day, they slid him back down into the paint and he worked soooo hard. Every story out of Sixers preseason that wasn’t about Bynum was about the improvements of Thad and Jrue. But, Moultrie does need to play. He should be starting some of these games with Thad sidelines. He really should.

  8. Keith
    23. February 2013 at 12:43

    I really don’t blame Doug for this season and would bring him back next year. Too many injuries on an already average team. The poor offseason moves have been well documented on here so I won’t go there, but do have a question.

    If Doug is out, will Curry get the job and the rest of the regime stays in tact? Or will they look for someone entirely new?

  9. Slap Dog Hoops (SDH)
    23. February 2013 at 14:32

    Collins most certainly should go. The Sixers have gone as far as they can with him. It’s such a shame too. He deserved to be named COY for both his seasons as took took what little he had and made it overachieve the way the team did. Anyways, Collins was never a permenant solution for the Sixers. he has never been that for his entire career as a head coach. he usually would stay a couple of years then would leave, go back to television, couch for another couple of year, and vise versa.

  10. Jodie
    23. February 2013 at 15:42

    DC will be here next year if Bynum re-signs, if not – he’ll slide to some consultant role with the front office and will concentrate on getting the head coaching job with USA basketball.

    I don’t like him for the team right now. Play Arnett Doug! This isn’t a title team with or without Bynum right now anyhow.

  11. Keith
    23. February 2013 at 17:10

    I am obviously in the minority here, but the only reason I think Moultrie should be playing much is if we are tanking. In that case, give him 30 mpg.

  12. ojdiddoit
    23. February 2013 at 17:26

    So the Bynum experience waits for another year,Collins isn’t going anywhere and neither I sthe big man.You don’t mortgage your future and give up your best player to let Bynum walk and Collin is simply venting the truth ,he gets a taste of 20 games of the future and watch the fire return…

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