WHEELING & DEALING II

Posted by: Steve Toll
05/06/13 10:25 am EST

The other day, I wrote how the 76ers should approach building a real contender by tanking and trading for superior but injured players.   Today, we will assume that their are enough parts in place to build something.

Like a hostile takeover of a corporate entity, cutting the dead weight is an obvious first step.  From there we will look at some undervalued assets around the league, similar to what was done in (A plan for 13-14).

What to do with “The Enigma”, Evan Turner?  It’s quite simple actually.  Whomever the GM for the Sixers is, he needs to call ET into his office on a weekday morning.  From there, they should ask, “Evan, if we can trade you to another team, is that something you would be interested in?”

The obvious answer will be yes.  The next move is to pick up the phone and call every single NBA team.  It will certainly be a humbling experience for Mr. Turner.  A combination of quick hang ups, laughs and outrageous demands (give us your lottery pick, is Thad coming too, We will give you Beasley/Bargnani/Ellis for ET, we require all the tea in china etc etc) will make it obvious to ET that the NBA truly has no interest in his services at $6,700,000 for the 2013-2014 season.

The next move is to offer a private jet to take ET all around the world to meet with different basketball clubs.  China, Turkey, Spain, Italy, Greece, Russia etc where the teams will be more than interested in his services.  This link will give you an idea of the ***highest paid Europeans*** for the 11-12 season.  The front office then just needs to hope that ET is willing to take paycut this year of ~$1.5 million in the pursuit of basketball success and personal happiness.

Kwame Brown needs to be convinced to take a spot in the front office.  It’s funny because it’s true.  Kwame isn’t going to take a buyout for anything less than the entire sum of what he is owed and he will still count against the cap. So the obvious move is to convince him to retire and then pay him his $3 million to step into a front office role and the 76ers can use that cap space on an actual NBA player.  If anything, he will certainly be a voice of reason when the 76ers want to pay Damian Wilkins a boatload of money or trade our lottery pick this year for Drew Gooden.  Kwame doesn’t love basketball, so why would he say no?

The stretching of Jason Richardson. Adam Aron mentioned the stretch provision on his recent 97.5 radio interview when I managed to actually get on the phone with him.  The best part of that was when he said, “the entire organization signed off on the Kwame Brown player option” but that’s already been written about here.

The stretch basically takes the years left on a guys deal, multiplies it by 2 and then adds a 1.  So Jason Richardson is given his walking (crutch? wheelchair?) papers and is paid $2.56 million dollars for the next 5 years.  That money does count against the cap, but the team will be able to replace him and then some for the remaining $3,700,000 available.  The 76ers would then have $26,500,000 to add free agents, as the 10th pick will have a $2.4 million dollar cap hold.  The team also can use the Mid Level Exception worth $5 million on a player

Jrue, Thad, Hawes, Lavoy, Moultrie are the 5 guys currently on the roster.  The team also has it’s Lottery pick and both 2nd rd picks.

The first thing the 76ers need to do is trade for Pau Gasol.  He had a down year this season, but it wasn’t long ago that Pau was dominating the Olympic Games and was unquestionably, the best Gasol brother.  On the other hand, he missed alot of games this year, has talked about going to Germany for a knee treatment and is past his prime.  Without a summer of basketball and being shifted back to his true position, Center, the 76ers can expect to see a player similar to the Pau Gasol of old.

Hawes, Lavoy, Moultrie and the 2nd rd picks are likely to get it done.  LAL needs depth and this trade saves the Lakers $32,000,000 in Luxury Tax next year alone.  Trading for Gasol eats up 8.5 million in cap space for the 76ers.  Gasol is a 1 year rental for the 76ers and immediately (if healthy) the best Center in the Eastern Conference.  The 76ers are in a unique position to go after Gasol, I don’t really see any other team who will offer the LAL 3 players who can all potentially contribute, 2 draft picks albeit 2nd rounders and save the Lakers $32 million.

A plan for 13-14 is enacted.  The team would still have 5 million for free agents and the $5 million dollar mid level exception.  The team will need a 3rd ball handler, another SG/SF and PF/C to complete the roster.

Starters: Calderon, Jrue, Brewer, Thad, Gasol

Nightshift: Wright, Birdman, Dalembert

To fill out the team, the 76ers should sign Devin Harris as the 3rd ball handler.

Kyle Korver at SG-SF and Jermaine O’Neal who fits a need of depth in the front court.  Each of these players are over 30 and come with the usual concerns of guys their age with a lot of NBA miles.  There is every reason to believe the 76ers could sign these 3 players with the remaining $10,000,000.

O’Neal had a ridiculous resurgence this year in terms of health and production, how much of that was Phoenix’s training staff?  He will rarely, if ever be counted on to play 30mpg.  If he can be who he was this year for Phoenix, his addition will be a great one.

Harris and Korver are just reliable veterans.  Korver has missed 9 games the past 3 years and is 5th in the NBA in 3pt makes over that time period.  Wright and Korver would very like be a top 3 duo in made 3pt shots next year with elite efficiency to boot.  Harris has had some injury trouble this year but will only be forced to play heavy minutes if there are multiple injuries in the backcourt.

Updated Roster:

Starters: Calderon, Jrue, Brewer, Thad, Gasol

Nightshift: Harris, Korver, Wright, Birdman, Dalembert, O’Neal

Last but certainly not least, is the 76ers lottery pick.  The team should go after Gorgui Dieng, a limited offensive and quality defensive C.  He won’t be counted on to contribute right away, while spending the year learning from 4 guys who have been good to Hall of Fame level players during their time in the NBA.

Can the 76ers make this happen? It’s possible.  David Stern would be pissed off to the Nth degree over the Kwame thing.  An unprecedented and super sketchy move by the 76ers? Yes, but it isn’t  something the league can do anything about.  Evan Turner could very well decide that being one of the top non-NBA players in the world is more fun than being awful on a nightly basis.

Once those 2 hurdles are taken care of, everything else can fall in line.  In a win now scenario, it doesn’t get much better than this.


 
 
 

47 Responses to “WHEELING & DEALING II”

  1. gabe
    6. May 2013 at 12:32

    seems like one of the only things we can agree on is that evan turner needs to fall off a cliff

    can’t see the lakers making that trade, but it sure does sound nice.

    would love to see korver back. harris would be a decent backup and we could do a lot worse. despite o’neal’s comeback season i don’t feel confident in giving him anything beyond a one-year deal w his age and mileage.

    LOVE dieng and if he is still available we HAVE to take him.

    having made 9.8 M last year what kind of contract do you see calderon getting?

  2. gabe
    6. May 2013 at 12:35

    calderon 10.5 M last year *

  3. Adam
    6. May 2013 at 13:38

    Yaaay, another 7-8th seed in the east. Foregoing a great 2014 draft.

    Classic toll.

  4. Steve Toll
    6. May 2013 at 14:53

    Gabe,

    Calderon’s range is anywhere from $3 to $5.5 million and is an incredible value.

    Adam,

    Your auto-correct sure is weird as it changed “yaaaay, clearly a top 4 team in the East” to “Yaaay, another 7-8th seed in the east. Foregoing a great 2014 draft.”

    FYI: Wheeling and Dealing part III will be right up your alley

  5. T. Martin
    6. May 2013 at 14:53

    Living in LA and being subjected to Lakers news/coverage 24/7 I’d HATE to see the Sixers help the Lakers in any way shape or form, especially after the Bynum debacle. And I’m even less interested in seeing the softest 7 footer ever, with a bearded face that resembles a yawning skanky vagina, playing for the Sixers.

    That being said, I am down for anything that alleviates them of suiting up ET, or Kwame, and to a lesser extent Hawes and Richardson.

    If you keep Jrue, Thad, Moultrie I’d go after OJ Mayo and David West as FAs. Then I’d trade the first round pick this year along with Hawes and ET to Atlanta for their two firsts (17 & 18) and take Dieng and Jamaal Franklin. Then I’d continue the youth movement in the second round and take Lucas Nogueira and Glen Rice Jr. or Tim Hardaway Jr. If there’s any more left to sign D. Wright, Harris, Okafor & Korver that’d be great.

    Starters – Jrue, Mayo, Thad, West & Dieng
    2nd shift – D. Harris, Franklin, D. Wright, Moultrie & Okafor.
    Reserves – Korver, Nogueira & Rice Jr. or Hardaway Jr.

  6. Steve Toll
    6. May 2013 at 16:21

    T. Martin,

    Did you watch the Olympic Final less than 9 months ago?

    West is staying in Indiana and Mayo will be overpaid by whomever retains his services.

    You want to trade the 10th pick+Hawes+ET for the 17th and 18th picks?

    HEAD EXPLODES: Philly could get Dieng with the 10th pick and Jamaal Franklin can’t shoot along with having more Turnovers than Assists in his college carrer.

    Hardaway Jr and Nogueira will both be gone before the 76ers pick in the 2nd rd

    Okafor, and I assume you mean Emeka Okafor is not going to be a free agent. He will be taking his $14.5 mil salary to play on the Wizards next year

  7. Jon
    6. May 2013 at 19:28

    boooooooooooo

  8. gabe
    6. May 2013 at 19:47

    if calderon really gets signed for that cheap i’m all about calderon. while i disagree with jrue needing to play the 2, he could at least share the backcourt with jrue and/or come off the bench and share the handling duties similar to the way golden state plays jack with curry.

    what makes you think he will go for so cheap?

  9. Ryan
    6. May 2013 at 20:56

    Remember Steve it should be “yaaay a top 4 seed in the Leastern Conference”

  10. Jon in LA
    6. May 2013 at 23:02

    I would love to have Gasol playing center. It would turn our team around.

    And I wouldn’t mind us keeping our two second rounders and just get two guys that can shoot. Take a chance on a guy like Khalif Wyatt coming off the bench and doing nothing but trying to score.

    I feel the NBA shies away from guys at smaller school or lesser division that put up numbers. If you average 20 points a game in college, you can put the ball in the basket. It’s the same basket in the NBA. You’re probably good for 12 points playing against other bench players.

  11. Steve Toll
    6. May 2013 at 23:15

    Gabe,

    Mayo, JR Smith, Lou, Jason Terry, Darren Collison all signed for under $5.5 million last year.

    Lin signed a 5/5/15 deal with Houston
    Goran Dragic signed for $7.5 a year

    CP3, Jarrett Jack, Calderon, Devin Harris, CJ Waton, DJ Augustin, Mo Williams are the UNrestricted free agent PGs this offseason. Teams are realizing that PGs/small guards don’t lead teams to championships and are more likely to undervalue certain players.

    I’m quite sure that if a team offers Calderon 2yr/10 million, he will be on that team.

  12. Ransom
    7. May 2013 at 07:51

    Ok, this is at least interesting. I like the Gasol move especially because it is a one year rental, we get to see what he has left in the tank.

    Perhaps I’m wrong but it just seems like Calderon has fallen of a cliff in terms of efficacy…maybe not?

    Ugh, for the love of god don’t draft Dieng. I understand the allure of him being a good shot-blocker with a decent/improving elbow jumper but he’s almost 24, on the development spectrum, a 24-year old SHOULD be better at basketball than most 20-21 years olds (who he’s been playing against). Also, name the successful lottery picks who were 23 or over on draft night…if you guessed Ekpe Udoh or Wes Johnson, you’re correct. Seriously tho, there aren’t any.

    Lastly, how exactly would this be a top 4 team in the east? maybe 5-6. but on paper Miami, Chicago, Indiana, BK and NYC are better. And on paper is all we have because this hypothetical team doesn’t even have a coach yet that could make up that difference. Hell, in terms of talent i’d take the 12-13 Hawks over the roster listed here..ok maybe not, but damn close.

  13. freezer
    7. May 2013 at 10:06

    I like part 2 better than part 1, the only thing Id really change is keeping Jrue at point and signing J. Jack and bringing him off the bench and passing on jose. I feel like we could easily replicate the guard situation in golden state, and I do think Jrue should be playing off the ball a good amount but still only with a player who will defer to him.

    Its also imperative that we play Turner next year, if for nothing else than the hope hes improved his game enough to the point we could get something in return for him before the deadline. Hes also an expiring contract next year so in the very least he might represent some good value to someone like denver maybe even for someone like gallo.

  14. Steve
    7. May 2013 at 10:12

    Take a flyer on Nate Rob next year, signed a 1 yr for less then 2 mil this yr. natural 2 that can play the point. Shooting mentality can be Jekyll and Hyde, but for that salary what’s there to lose.

  15. George
    7. May 2013 at 11:02

    I would love a push for any of the following restricted/unrestricted FA: JJ hickson, Jose Calderon, Darren Collison, Tyreke Evans, Andrei Kirilenko, Josh Smith, David West, Paul Millsap, OJ Mayo, or Nikola Pekovic. I like how you want to blow up the team, but what consideration do you have to take for the 2014 free agent class? I like Pau Gasol, but is he just a rental? Lol it seems like Philly is the Lakers place to dump salary. I hope this next year starts off with less hype, between the Eagles and Sixers I feel like every year just crushes my ability for optimism.

  16. George
    7. May 2013 at 11:12

    Would you trade Hawes for Mozgov?

  17. Adam
    7. May 2013 at 11:13

    Top 4 in the east?

    Explain now how that team is better than miami, ny, chicago, indy, brooklyn, and atlanta…. Go

  18. Steve Toll
    7. May 2013 at 12:07

    Ransom,

    Calderon can still ball, http://bkref.com/tiny/VNzEF

    Calderon, Jrue, Brewer, Thad, Harris, Korver, Wright are superior to Deron, ISO JOE, G-Force, CJ Watson, Brooks and whatever veteran minimum scrubs BKN adds next year

    Then you have to ask yourself: Gasol, Thad, Dalembert, Birdman, O’Neal or Lopez, Evans, Humphries because BKN is losing BLATCHE ATTACK this offseason.

    In regards to NYK here is their team next year: Chandler, Melo, Felton, Shumpert, Kidd, Novak, Camby, James White along with the 24th pick and Minimum salary guys.

    Freezer,

    If GSW and Philly both offer Jack $5 million a year, which team do you think he will pick? How much do you want to spend on JJ to get him to Philly?

    EVAN TURNER WAS 15th IN THE NBA IN MINUTES PLAYED THIS YEAR. HE WAS AWFUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUULLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL
    The 76ers can’t get dick for him, and to even suggest getting Gallo for him is just head shakingly bad. Where do you come up with this stuff?

  19. Steve Toll
    7. May 2013 at 12:27

    Steve,

    It will be interesting to see what happens with Nate Robinson this offseason, he certainly should be on every teams list for $2,000,000. Which begs the question, how high will his number go?

    George,

    Hawes is 2 years younger than Mozgov and already quite better, not a chance

    Most of those guys will eat up most of the cap for the 76ers.
    There is no easy answer right now for the team. I wish your list was the 76ers next year; JJ hickson, Jose Calderon, Darren Collison, Tyreke Evans, Andrei Kirilenko, Josh Smith, David West, Paul Millsap, OJ Mayo, Nikola Pekovic

    Adam,

    My reasoning for BKN and NYK are in my latest response to Ransom, I have them being decidedly worse next year.

    ATL currently has Horford, Lou Will and a rookie on the roster. If they keep Teague, sign Pekovik, Iguodala, JR Smith, Barnes and some other quality vets, then yea they will likely be better.

    but if they sign keep Smith and sign SwaggyP, Brewer, Mayo, and Chris Kaman, they will not be bettter

  20. Adam
    7. May 2013 at 13:18

    Prolonging mediocrity at the expense of a good draft class and free agency just seems like the worst thing an NBA team can do.

  21. Steve Toll
    7. May 2013 at 13:29

    Adam,

    Yet the 76ers decided to firmly entrench themselves in that position by trading Iggy, Vucevic, Harkless and a 1st rd pick for Bynum.

    You keep making these obtuse points that everyone is very aware of, most notably myself, the leader of the tank brigade.

    These are just options.

    Wait until you read Part III, it will warm your heart

  22. T. Martin
    7. May 2013 at 15:05

    1) I hate Gasol. He’ll be 33 this summer and I’d have no interest.

    2) I think you’re wrong about West. George is a RFA and Granger is an UFA next year so they’ve got bigger fish to fry/pay. So I think his money is coming from some team outside Indiana. But not a huge deal either (3/$24?) His days of making $10mil/year are over. I think he’s very gettable especially if a team makes him feel wanted. Same with Mayo, who outperformed his contract in Dallas this year, somebody comes hard out of the gate for him, they’ll get him for four years/$30mil, five years/$36. He’s still only 25 years old.

    3) Yes, I’d deal down with Atlanta. Eight days a week and twice on Sunday. This team needs as much young, cost-controlled talent as it can get it’s hands on. Maybe Dieng is gone but having higher picks only helps if they pick the right guys which we both know hasn’t always been the case (see: Turner, Evan). Don’t like Franklin? Then take Allen Crabbe. I’d take any combination of Dieng (if he’s still there) Rice Jr., Nogueira, Franklin, or Crabbe over them taking Alex Len or Cody Zeller if they stayed at 10.

  23. Steve Toll
    7. May 2013 at 18:45

    T. Martin,

    1. Ok so you hate Gasol and have no interest

    2. IND has $49.9 million committed to the cap for 13-14 and if you’re in anyway insinuating that Granger > West, GET THAT OUTTA HERE.
    Indiana already proved they wanted West when they blew every team in the league out of the water with their 2yr $20 million dollar deal. Unless West is insulted by the Pacers or another team goes CRAZY, West will be back there next year in IND

    In what way did OJ Mayo outperform his contract in Dallas? If a GM pays OJ Mayo 4yrs-$30 Million, that GM shouldn’t have a job.

    3. The math says your wrong on the draft picks value but I’m not going to explain that. I just love how you unjustly assume that ATL is will to take on ET’s dead weight, and Hawes deal when they are going after the big fish in free agency. Under your plan this would be done before the draft and eat up valuable cap space for a team that is trying to win.

    So while you’d do this 8 days a week and twice on Sunday, it was manage to be a mistake for both teams. It’s quite impressive to do a trade that is terrible for both teams.
    #goodjobgoodeffort

  24. Adam
    7. May 2013 at 19:09

    The team was going nowhere with iggy.

    Vuc and harkless would be nice tradable assets i agree.

    Not sure if that pick really matters since its lotto protected

  25. Rob h
    8. May 2013 at 10:53

    On a side note “to even suggest getting gallo for turner is head scratchingly bad” that’s a bad one huh but your hilariously awful jrue for rondo and a pick in so much worse its cut my own head of bad. Once again Steve toll makes a point he’s right your wrong, according to him that is. what is your obsession with the birdman?

  26. Steve Toll
    8. May 2013 at 13:22

    Adam,

    I blame Iggy for trading Dalembert, signing Brand and drafting ET, I assume you do too?

    RobH,

    I’ll stop writing for Philadunkia, if you can explain why a WIN NOW team like Boston wouldn’t take Jrue+Lavoy > Rondo and the EV of its first rd pick next year.

    If Pierce+KG aren’t on the Celtics next year, it doesn’t make sense but there is a very small chance of that happening.

    Good Luck

    Birdman was a guy I was clamoring to have signed all off season, and was the only one to do it.

  27. gabe
    8. May 2013 at 14:00

    how much does everyone see monta ellis getting when he opts out of his contract? i know he isn’t known for playing much D but i think we need his scoring and jrue can match up w a lot of starting shooting guards, especially after a summer of getting stronger. jrue and monta would be an elite offensive backcourt tandem.

    i’d take jack over calderon but he is going to re-sign in golden state. i’d be very happy with calderon in the 5-6 M range. if he gets signed for less than 5 M that will be a huge steal.

    to suggest we are going to get even a broken washing machine for turner is indeed crazy, just as crazy as trading jrue holiday.

  28. Steve Toll
    8. May 2013 at 14:34

    Gabe,

    Ellis isn’t opting out, but that’s just my opinion.

    His perceived value has dropped, and $11 mil is at least 2 years of salary if he opts out.

    If he opts out 3yr 18 million is the absolute top of his pay range

    A broken washing machine can be fixed

  29. Adam
    8. May 2013 at 15:03

    If u sign monta ur just needlessly clogging ur cap to stay mediocre.

    Toll, dont be silly, guess responding to my actual post is beyond ur scope of practice?

  30. Steve
    8. May 2013 at 15:05

    I wouldn’t mind Ellis either. Could use some instant offense even if its at a risk.

  31. gabe
    8. May 2013 at 15:36

    also agree nate robinson would be a great backup for the sixers. he’s finally going to get a deal that’s more than one year this summer that’s for sure.

  32. freezer
    8. May 2013 at 17:00

    The reality of the Turner situation is he does have a value, hes coming off a season in which he was very ineffiecient but its undeniable he showed he had alot of talent. He still has alot of bad habits from ohio state for example he loves to pound the rock 30 feet from the basket, forces alot, takes alot of ill advised jumpers, and has a case of serious tunnel vision. But if you know about his career you know hes been a late bloomer at every level hes played at. He also has an expiring deal, which is value in and of itself.

  33. Jeff McMenamin
    8. May 2013 at 19:07

    @Steve Toll

    How about George Karl???
    http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/9254113/george-karl-denver-nuggets-named-nba-coach-year
    You’re right though…He’s a bad coach………….

  34. Steve Toll
    8. May 2013 at 19:33

    Adam,

    I responded, you’re just not on my level

    Freezer,

    ET totally sucks through And through. If you were conscious during this last trade deadline, you’d understand that expiring contracts don’t hold the same value as past years

  35. Steve Toll
    8. May 2013 at 19:38

    Jeff,

    Might as well just give that award to Iguodala, he was the difference maker

  36. Rob h
    8. May 2013 at 20:26

    Steve,
    Why wouldn’t they trade for Lou Williams if they want to win now he’s better than jrue right or rondo for hawes because he’s more valuable. This is why your an ignorant jackass all I heard all year is why jrue isn’t a top 15 pg but Boston will be willing to trade a top 5 pg for him and lavoy.

  37. Rob h
    8. May 2013 at 20:29

    Steve,
    Also nothing to say about George Carl right, thought so.

  38. rzzzzz
    9. May 2013 at 10:16

    miami, boston and chicago fans all hate on turner too, but 4 the right reasons. they all thought he was pia thug in the playoffs. offer him to them for next to nothing and they’ll be more than happy to take him off our hands.

  39. Steve Toll
    9. May 2013 at 12:24

    robh,

    GK should give his COY award to Iguodala. what else is there to say?

    Bostons front office hasnt exactly been setting the world on fire since the big 3 trade. There is every reason to believe they would do that. You vastly underestimate the difference between what Lavoy Allen can produce compared to the EV of the Celtics 1st rd pick.

    You also seem to discount that the Celtics have 2 options this offseason:

    Trade Rondo or blow the team up this

    Lou (tho hurt) is just a vastly superior player to Holiday.

  40. Adam
    9. May 2013 at 13:39

    Toll, u responded, just not based on anything i actually said. Ur response was unrelated to my point….

    What level?bi guess i havent taken nearly as much lsd as u have….

  41. Steve Toll
    9. May 2013 at 14:35

    Adam,

    Is this real life or is this fantasy? You’re really breaking my balls guy

    And the Bulls went nowhere with Michael Jordan in 86-87; http://www.basketball-reference.com/teams/CHI/1987.html

    What’s your excuse for him that year?

    NBA IS A TEAM GAME, Iggy can’t be blamed for the teammates he had. He did what he could do and it wasn’t enough, C’est la vie

    I wasn’t his fault the team signed Brand, traded Dalembert and drafted ET.

    Imagine if the team got Smith, kept Dalembert and drafted George.

    It’s not his fault that his box of chocolates with the 76ers was a bunch of underwhelming pieces

  42. Rob h
    9. May 2013 at 21:03

    Steve,
    Why would he give his trophy to the 3rd best player on the team? Again your jerking your own dick(opinions), this is exactly the reason your bias makes you look ignorant. But I’m done since you can’t answer my questions, go into politics you will fit right in.

  43. Adam
    11. May 2013 at 13:12

    If the team got smith, drafted paul george and kept dalembert?

    Ok, so wed have iggy and george on the wings…. Holiday at the 1….

    Still a pretty mediocre roster…. Youd have 3 small forwards with 1 playing the 4 and the other playing the 2. And no quality big man. The only upside is the potential to still trade iggy and thad.

    Imagine this now…. After the AI trade the sixers decide that winning all those meaningless games was a waste of time, and instead end up with al horford, noah, or KD! Much better than ur mid-level roster already.

  44. Steve Toll
    12. May 2013 at 12:58

    RobH,

    Think whatever you want. Continue to do so, be wrong and stay mad.
    Iguodala is without question, the best player on Denver’s roster.

    Is it his fault that George “I’ve lost 3 1st rd matchups with 57 win teams, and I play the worst rotations possible” Karl was his coach?

    Denver doesn’t make the playoffs this year if the Iggy trade doesn’t happen

  45. Steve Toll
    14. May 2013 at 11:17

    Adam,

    You are just unbelievably bad at this basketball stuff.

    Iggy+George would be the 3rd best defensive wing combo in NBA History behind MJ+Pippen and Lebron+Wade

    Jrue+George+Iggy+Smith+Dalembert is a sick starting 5, Thad+Lou+XYZ off the bench.

    Smith is an NBA 4, get over it

  46. Adam
    15. May 2013 at 09:09

    That team wouldn win 48 games…. With no championship upside….would desperately need a better 5, and someone to guard 2s.

    Iggy cant defend quicker scoring guards, and dalembert isnt a good enough rim protector… Hes a decent rebounder and shotblocker, not great, but hes a pretty bad interior defender in the post.

    Also, where does any interior offense come from? Are we taking long 2s all day? We all know how that show ends.

    Too many holes with that team, george isnt “the best player on a great team” type of guy…. Just like iggy, but a better version. And putting them together doesnt equal one.

  47. Steve Toll
    16. May 2013 at 11:25

    Adam,

    Ummmmmm that would be the 2nd best starting 5/team in the LEastern conference

    Who are these “quicker” scoring guards that Iggy+Paul George can’t guard?

    Dalembert is 12th in career rebound % and 10th in block %, he also has been very healthy throughout his NBA career. There is value in that.

    Jrue and PG are +36% 3pt shooters. Paul, Iggy, Smith are 3 of the best passing non point guards in the NBA, they are also very effective cutters without the ball. One of the Greatest of All-Time fast break teams
    The team has a bench that it could use; Lou, Thad, Wright etc etc

    For some odd reason you think basketball is about scoring the most points. IT IS NOT.
    The point is to score 1 more point than your opponents, this team would be very good at that

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